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MC-002 - Ender Dragon Drops Wings #2

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opened 2019-05-22 11:45:26 +02:00 by Dandellion · 10 comments
Dandellion commented 2019-05-22 11:45:26 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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On multiplayer servers it can become quite hard to procure wings, and as time goes on it will become even harder.

We are not many players so this might be a non-issue for now, but surely accidents will happen, people will lose their wings, and in a few years it might be near impossible to find more wings, (lest the world size doesnt balloon)

A common way to get around this issue is to modify the ender dragon's loot table, adding a 100% guaranteed elytra wing drop.

This has a few

  • Solves problem of getting elytra wings over
  • Gives a bigger incentive to go through the ender dragon resurrection ritual (which currently literally only gives you dragon's breath (lingering potions), AND IT UNLOCKS ANOTHER END ISLAND PORTAL)
  • Gives an excuse for community gathering to fight the ender
  • Makes wings renewable.
On multiplayer servers it can become quite hard to procure wings, and as time goes on it will become even harder. We are not many players so this might be a non-issue for now, but surely accidents will happen, people will lose their wings, and in a few years it might be near impossible to find more wings, (lest the world size doesnt balloon) A common way to get around this issue is to modify the ender dragon's loot table, adding a 100% guaranteed elytra wing drop. This has a few * Solves problem of getting elytra wings over * Gives a bigger incentive to go through the ender dragon resurrection ritual (which currently literally only gives you dragon's breath (lingering potions), AND IT UNLOCKS ANOTHER END ISLAND PORTAL) * Gives an excuse for community gathering to fight the ender * Makes wings renewable.
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 01:34:26 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Datapack implementing this is here.
https://git.dodsorf.as/Dandellion/minecraft-datapacks/tree/MC-002

Specifically https://git.dodsorf.as/Dandellion/minecraft-datapacks/-/jobs/artifacts/MC-002/file/out/dodsorfas_custom_loot.zip?job=build

Datapack implementing this is here. https://git.dodsorf.as/Dandellion/minecraft-datapacks/tree/MC-002 Specifically https://git.dodsorf.as/Dandellion/minecraft-datapacks/-/jobs/artifacts/MC-002/file/out/dodsorfas_custom_loot.zip?job=build
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 01:34:46 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 01:36:46 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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mentioned in merge request !2

mentioned in merge request !2
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 11:33:21 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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cyber: 100% is a bit too good, do 66%

Dan: unreasonable to fight a boss for X and not get X 33% of the time
We can balance it by adding a curse to the wings, maybe

Chance Enchantment
66% Curse of Vanishing
23% Nothing
9% Unbreaking III
1% Unbreaking III/Mending

rickster: får man vinger av å drepe ender dragon?

cyber: 100% too high, have consolation prize, 50 diamonds, enchanted book (mending)

Dan: I think its a pretty good balance already
you won't get the extra loot and shulkers from killing the dragon

Dan: What if the dragons elytra drop with less max durability?

cyber: sure

cyber: 100% is a bit too good, do 66% Dan: unreasonable to fight a boss for X and not get X 33% of the time We can balance it by adding a curse to the wings, maybe | Chance | Enchantment | | ------ | ---------------------- | | 66% | Curse of Vanishing | | 23% | Nothing | | 9% | Unbreaking III | | 1% | Unbreaking III/Mending | rickster: får man vinger av å drepe ender dragon? cyber: 100% too high, have consolation prize, 50 diamonds, enchanted book (mending) Dan: I think its a pretty good balance already you won't get the extra loot and shulkers from killing the dragon Dan: What if the dragons elytra drop with less max durability? cyber: sure
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 11:35:17 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 13:00:28 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Fredrik: Personally for 100% drop, custom wings (common-legendary)

Higher chance of good loot if it dies quickly? (Incentives team effort)

Track how many times its been hit? (More hits, worse wings?)

Fredrik: Personally for 100% drop, custom wings (common-legendary) Higher chance of good loot if it dies quickly? (Incentives team effort) Track how many times its been hit? (More hits, worse wings?)
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 13:20:46 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Personally I feel like the wings shouldn't be better than what naturally found wings can be.

Custom names, less max durability, curses, with small chance to get them with enchantments, sure.

But I don't think more durability, unbreaking IV (not sure if possible), or even giving it armor toughness (i.e make it as much armor as diamond), is something we should be looking at.

Personally I feel like the wings shouldn't be _better_ than what naturally found wings _can_ be. Custom names, **less** max durability, curses, with small chance to get them with enchantments, sure. But I don't think _more_ durability, unbreaking IV (not sure if possible), or even giving it armor toughness (i.e make it as much armor as diamond), is something we should be looking at.
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 16:56:34 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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cyber: thats actually kinda neat
it gives you a tool to look for gooder wings

cyber: thats actually kinda neat it gives you a tool to look for gooder wings
Dandellion commented 2019-05-23 16:57:47 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Dan: Maybe they could be fixed
Like if you combined two explorer wings
They'll turn into a normal one

Alternatively explorer wing and a wither star

Dan: Maybe they could be fixed Like if you combined two explorer wings They'll turn into a normal one Alternatively explorer wing and a wither star
Dandellion commented 2019-08-01 03:06:22 +02:00 (Migrated from git.dodsorf.as)
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Reference: DODSORFAS/minecraft-datapacks#2