MC-003 - Shulker Drop Buff #3

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2019-05-22T11:48:49+02:00

Dandellion commented

2019-05-22 11:48:49 +02:00

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Shulkers naturally drop their shells 50% (68.75% with looting III) of the time.

Shulkers have much of the same problem as elytras. but almost to an even more extreme level. They only spawn once, everyone wants them (but instead of one, its more like as many as you could possibly have)

But shulkers should also not replace chests for long term storage (unless you put in quite a bit of work). so having them be easy to craft, or even afk farmable seems a little bit OP.

As a first measure to improve the situations I suggest modifiying the loot table, this would only make shulkers drop more shells, and does not fix the underlying issue. See INSERT RFC HERE for that.

Option A

Shulkers always drop 2 shulker shells. Its logical, they clearly have two shells why do we only get one, some of the time?
This would make looting swords not required to kill shulkers.

Option B

Shulkers always drop 1 shulker shell, with a 50% chance to drop the other shell, scaling to 68.75% to drop a second.
This is vanilla+1, making looting still quite valuable

Option C

Shulkers always drop 1 shulker shell, with a 50% chance to drop the other shell, scaling to 100%
This would make looting very valuable.

Shulkers naturally drop their shells 50% (68.75% with looting III) of the time. Shulkers have much of the same problem as elytras. but almost to an even more extreme level. They only spawn once, everyone wants them (but instead of one, its more like as many as you could possibly have) But shulkers should also not replace chests for long term storage (unless you put in quite a bit of work). so having them be easy to craft, or even afk farmable seems a little bit OP. As a first measure to improve the situations I suggest modifiying the loot table, this would only make shulkers drop more shells, and does not fix the underlying issue. See INSERT RFC HERE for that. # Option A Shulkers always drop 2 shulker shells. Its logical, they clearly have two shells why do we only get one, some of the time? This would make looting swords not required to kill shulkers. # Option B Shulkers always drop 1 shulker shell, with a 50% chance to drop the other shell, scaling to 68.75% to drop a second. This is vanilla+1, making looting still quite valuable # Option C Shulkers always drop 1 shulker shell, with a 50% chance to drop the other shell, scaling to 100% This would make looting very valuable.

Dandellion commented

2019-05-24 12:59:54 +02:00

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mentioned in merge request !4

Dandellion commented

2019-05-26 17:02:55 +02:00

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@room FCP on MC-003 OPENED, if no one says anything I'll go ahead and merge !4 (that's Option B)

Dandellion commented

2019-05-27 02:32:50 +02:00

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Cyber: C

Reasoning:

C seems good

Cyber: C Reasoning: C seems good

Dandellion commented

2019-05-27 03:50:41 +02:00

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Donce is against the whole idea.

Donce: they shouldnt be buffed

Dan: Reasoning?

Donce: because its a super useful item
Donce: and its not too easy to obtain
Donce: however now that everyone progressed way more with wings
Donce: its become pretty easy'
Donce: and i greatly dislike the idea of getting so many so easily

Dan: you don't think multiplayer is a good reason to buff it somewhat?

Donce: Nope
Donce: if it werent for multiplayer, we wouldn't have found many end cities either

Dan: even if alone, once you get wings you'd find plenty

Donce: yh but getting them yourself is difficult
Donce: as you said youre finding plenty

...
A, lot. of argumentation continued

Donce believes it will get easier for new players to get shulkers because theyll borrow wings

its their fucking fault for not putting effort in as early as possible
to secure the end game loot

🤔 :P (I'll admit thats an unfair quote)

In general he feels shulkers are very OP

if you really care, read the chat https://matrix.to/#/!btyHsHzMgQlpiTruoF:dodsorf.as/$155891717619493okGDO:dodsorf.as?via=dodsorf.as

Oh and he was like, fairly positive to resetting the end islands every now and then (fredrik too)

Donce is against the whole idea. Donce: they shouldnt be buffed Dan: Reasoning? Donce: because its a super useful item Donce: and its not too easy to obtain Donce: however now that everyone progressed way more with wings Donce: its become pretty easy' Donce: and i greatly dislike the idea of getting so many so easily Dan: you don't think multiplayer is a good reason to buff it somewhat? Donce: Nope Donce: if it werent for multiplayer, we wouldn't have found many end cities either Dan: even if alone, once you get wings you'd find plenty Donce: yh but getting them yourself is difficult Donce: as you said youre finding plenty ... A, lot. of argumentation continued Donce believes it will get easier for new players to get shulkers because theyll borrow wings >its their fucking fault for not putting effort in as early as possible to secure the end game loot :thinking: :P (I'll admit thats an unfair quote) In general he feels shulkers are very OP if you really care, read the chat https://matrix.to/#/!btyHsHzMgQlpiTruoF:dodsorf.as/$155891717619493okGDO:dodsorf.as?via=dodsorf.as Oh and he was like, fairly positive to resetting the end islands every now and then (fredrik too)

Dandellion commented

2019-05-27 03:52:24 +02:00

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That's 2 for 1 against.

0 A
1 B
1 C

That's 2 for 1 against. 0 A 1 B 1 C

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